Mayor: Fix it up soon, or rip it down

Published Wednesday June 10th, 2009

Train station blues | City tired of waiting

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Negotiations between J.D. Irving and the NB Liquor Corp. are percolating, but Mayor Brad Woodside says it's time to fish or cut bait.

Woodside, who suggested he'd be just as happy as any Frederictonian to see the shabby York Street property fixed up, said if no deal can be reached, he's ready to head to Ottawa to convince the federal government to allow the structure to be demolished.

The Daily Gleaner has learned that discussions with the liquor corporation - which the newspaper reported on in mid-March - have reached a critical juncture.

NB Liquor officials were coy about the talks last spring and there was no update from the agency late Tuesday.

Train station owner J.D. Irving was equally disinclined to talk publicly about negotiations.

"Once again, we continue to pursue opportunities for a commercial development," said J.D. Irving communications spokesman Geoff Britt. "For confidentiality reasons, we are not able to comment on negotiations."

"It's something we'd be prepared to look at if it fit into our plan," Nora Lacey, communications manager for NB Liquor told the newspaper in mid-March about its interest in the train station.

"It seems to me that right now there are negotiations going on that are very close, and I am hopeful that this matter can be resolved," the mayor said Tuesday.

"Failing that, I am prepared to seek a legal opinion as to what the municipality can do to deal with this, and I am prepared to go to Ottawa and to present the city's case to the bureaucracy there because I don't feel that this city should have to tolerate this anymore.''

Built in 1923, the train station is considered an historic structure and is protected under federal heritage legislation. Buildings with such a designation can be torn down, but only with federal government approval.

Supporters of the train station were dubious that the building's roof, propped up by two-by-fours, would last another winter.

The roof is beginning to collapse. The derelict building has become a local eyesore and even some of the staunchest heritage buffs are ready to throw their hands up in despair.

Peter Pacey, past president of Fredericton Heritage Trust, has said if the station isn't fixed up soon, it should be torn down.

"I'm very upset nothing has gone on and it's just at a standstill,'' said Tim Scammell, New Maryland village councillor and a long-time member of the Friends of Fredericton Railway Inc. lobby group, on Tuesday.

"Unless something is going on behind the scenes and they've kept it quiet, I'm very disappointed. I thought the idea of moving the bus station there was a great idea. I liked the idea of moving a liquor store there.''

The Fredericton chapter of the Conservation Council of New Brunswick has suggested the train station would make a good home for Acadien Coach Lines, which has to relocate from the downtown.

Woodside has voiced his displeasure with the deteriorating state of the train station at various times and in varying degrees, but he said it's time to sort it out once and for all.

"I will not let go until this matter is resolved," the mayor said. "The public is fed up and so is the city. Inaction and the status quo is not acceptable."

The liquor corporation was deluged with opposition when it closed its King Street liquor store in January 2008.

 

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But if you tear it down or fix it up, the poor raccoons that we've seen climbing in and out of the hole on the roof will have no home~ just kidding! It's an embarrassing eyesore! Do something about it now...whether it's torn down or restored! I don't care which...just do SOMETHING!
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A Reader, Fredericton on 10/06/09 01:44:57 PM AST
This is so typical of Woodhead who clearly has not interest in preserving the history of the city he's responsible for. As noted below, the puppet is playing right into the Irving's plan to have the National Historic Site knocked down. Fredericton has the worst record of heritage preservation of any capital city in the country. The other capital city's identify important and significant heritage resources before they're at risk. Woodsides idea is to destroy it first and worry about it later - these heritage resources are non-renewable and huge money makers with heritage tourism. Too bad the Mayor is so ignorant and ill-informed.
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Heritage Guy, Fredericton on 10/06/09 04:43:26 PM AST
Hmmm this is odd we are discussing the old past repair train station.

I hope they do make a decision soon. It would be nice to see more developement in this area, and hey hopefully the bus station will go there?

The Irving family have done many amazing thing for this province. I have lived her many years and they are very smart business people and you have to tip your hat to that.

cheers
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Model Town, Oromocto on 10/06/09 04:46:09 PM AST
Hey you, MadApe, in the basement ... It's you're mother's calling .. dinner's ready ... and clean up your room!
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Peter Winchcombe, Essex on 10/06/09 04:50:02 PM AST
I agree, just tear it down its an eye sore... The Irvings should face the face and clean up their mess, tear it down and build something over it like a mini verison of it with tourism stuff come on people
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Blue Blazer, Fredericton on 10/06/09 09:54:12 PM AST
I'm torn between saving a historical building and having to walk out to the city limits to catch the bus.

i mean seriously, Fredericton has an entire faculty of engineers at unb,a faculty of artists at unb and the various design schools in town. I'm sure if they put the word out and pulled some favours they could get students to design a brand new building that retained the original 1920's style that the train station had while accommodating the needs of the new owner and build it in exchange for class credit or something.

remember in the old days entire communities got together for barn risings where everyone volunteered and things were built in no time with the only costs being material and food...good PR for the city good Pr for the companies that donate the material,good pr for the schools,and experience for the students,everyone wins
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Fred B., Fredericton on 11/06/09 01:53:14 AM AST
Yes they are a plague. If Irving did not exist there would be numerous small companies in its place. They would create more employment and not have a team of lawyers trying to milk the teat of the NB taxpayer.

The Mad Ape
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Mad Ape, Tatumba.com on 11/06/09 06:32:52 AM AST
Peter Winchcombe, Essex

You are jealous

The Mad Ape
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Mad Ape, Tatumba.com on 11/06/09 06:33:40 AM AST
I've been told that the plans for the station (or one very similar) are available in the National Archives in Ottawa.
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Doctor Mud, Fredericton on 11/06/09 03:20:47 PM AST
It seems clear that there is no real interest in saving this building. It is clearly beyond repair and would need to be torn down to be fixed up. I honestly think the plan is to let it deteriorate completely so the land can be sold or redeveloped for big $$. I question the assertion of Heritage Guy that Fredericton has the worst record of historical preservation of any capital city in the country...has he been to Calgary? Vancouver? Fredericton is a beautiful city. In fact, other capital cities in Canada started out looking very much like Fredericton but their downtown areas were leveled in favour of huge office buildings. You can't find homes like we have here in other cities, cities not in Atlantic Canada I mean. Part of maintaining the integrity of our history is also knowing when to let something go. Even if that train station was rebuilt it would no longer be a historical landmark, it would be a new building made to look like a historical landmark. Maybe that is the answer?
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Henry Henry, Fredericton on 16/06/09 03:52:17 PM AST
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