From trains to buses?

Published Thursday May 7th, 2009

Old station | Site pitched as new home for bus line

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If a creative idea for Fredericton's York Street train station is accepted, it may have new life as a transportation hub, but not as it pertains to trains.

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Solution to problem: Lewis Morgan would like to see the York Street train station turned into the new home for Acadian Bus Lines.

Lewis Morgan, a member of Transport 2000 Atlantic, a group that promotes the advancement and development of public transportation, believes the property should be redeveloped so that it can be used by Acadian Bus Lines.

The company is looking to move from its location at 101 Regent St.

"It would be lovely to have that site returned to its original intended use," Morgan said Wednesday.

Group Orleans Express, the company that owns Acadian Bus Lines, confirmed earlier this month that it was looking for a new home.

Manon Piche, the company's vice-president of marketing, sales and communications, said the firm is only interested in leasing property from someone else and isn't interested in buying the train station and the land it's on.

"If there's a developer that comes to us and says, 'Here is a project we have (and) here is the long-term lease you would have to pay to be here,' then it's a question of whether (it) fits with our budget constraints."

If that happens, Piche said, then it's worth looking at it.

"I look at everything; I look at all alternatives."

Piche said the company needs to have enough space for its buses and a location that's convenient for customers.

Morgan said the York Street site would give Acadian the space it needs, while providing ample parking.

The York Street train station, constructed in 1923, is protected under federal heritage legislation that bars owners J.D. Irving Ltd. from tearing it down. The cost of restoring the structure is about $2 million.

While J.D. Irving Ltd. couldn't be reached for comment Wednesday, the company has said it isn't feasible to do that work without a major development.

J.D. Irving Ltd. wants to redevelop the station as part of a commercial or office project. Bringing the one-time station back to life is a requirement for development of the surrounding land.

Company officials in recent years have talked with developers, potential tenants and even signed a letter of sale after being offered $1. So far, however, nothing has materialized.

Morgan said the transformation into a bus station could be done while preserving the rail bed, and maintaining the building's original appearance.

Because of its rapidly decaying state - and the city's need for a new bus station - a decision on the building's future should be made as soon as possible, Morgan said.

Steve Boyko, president of Fredericton Friends of the Railway, also feels the York Street site would be a great location for the bus station.

"It's not far from downtown (and) there's good road access,'' said Boyko. "Also, it's in keeping with the theme of the station as a transportation centre."

In order for it to work, however, there would have to be some level of government involvement, Boyko said.

Alex Forbes, director of development services for the city, said his initial response to the idea is that it wouldn't be the best utilization for "an extremely valuable property."

"It certainly could work for that use, but a lot of other uses have been tried on that property that are much more substantive," Forbes said.

"The upgrade to the train station is significant. Any type of an operation like Acadian doesn't need really expensive space."

Forbes said Acadian has an application going later this month to the city's planning advisory committee pertaining to a location on Woodside Lane, off Hanwell Road.

"From the city's point of view, we would ideally like to have them downtown because people want to get dropped off downtown. But it's easier said than done because it's hard to find the property downtown where you can get all of the conditions to accommodate them."

 

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Good day, yes downtown is the prime location!! I truly feel that it time to let the old train station go. Sometimes we truly have to pick and choose our battles and it is now time to remove the federal heritage legislation. The money that it would cost to restore this building is beyond common sense. With our current state or economy,a new commerical building would be a win win for the community.
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Model Town, Oromocto on 07/05/09 06:15:57 AM AST
This is the start of a good idea but you need to put more to it. Look to Ottawa where certain streets are bus only routes during the day. This an excellent way to encourage a new economy and remove the cars and motorbikes from the downtown core.
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D W, Fredericton on 07/05/09 07:29:29 AM AST
The old train station as a transportation hub is a great idea! If the bike trails could be incorporated, making it a transportation hub for public transit as well as bikes (with, say, a bike shop, refreshment shop, etc. etc.), this spot could really take off, and make Fredericton an even better tourist destination.
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T K, Fredericton on 07/05/09 08:09:38 AM AST
I find it funny that Brunswick News was unable to reach JDI for comment.
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Andrew Blair, Fredericton on 07/05/09 10:27:04 AM AST
Relocating the bus station to York St is a great idea. The old train station, in its current condition, is an eye sore. Bus stations should be downtown since frequently those using the service don't drive and may need to hook up with public transportation. Also tourists visiting the city by bus should be dropped off in the centre of the city not the outskirts. As well, many bus travelers into F'ton are continuing on to Halifax or Montreal and so they are using our city as their meal stop and food and drink should be easily available as it is downtown. The bus station in Saint John is in the middle of nowhere and is quite inconvenient to get to if you aren't driving. I can't think of any large city who would put its bus station outside of the city centre. If not relocating the bus terminal to the York St location there is a large plot of land on McLeod beside Churchland Estates that would probably be large enough or else the large parking lot on Queen St near the Legion.
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Im F'ton, Fredericton on 07/05/09 11:40:01 AM AST
stupid idea. imo.
acadia lines s/b relocating to where that vacant building is beside the legion on queen st and that vast empty parking lot AND Fredericton citizens really need to get together and get the IRVINGS to do something about the eye sore they have in our downtown. Really tho ...
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TD GOE, fredrock on 07/05/09 12:49:44 PM AST
Considering the number of students who use the buses, going to the Hanwell Road is purely idiotic.

I can see that using the bus station as part of the redevelopment of the train station would be a wonderful idea. A temporary structure could easily be build or leased for the time being...look at Saint John, where the bus station is a temporary location until they get a downtown location sorted out (in another 10 years).

Restoring the train station will only happen if it makes economic sense, but located right there I can see the bus depot, a coffee shop, etc etc...
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Munni Baggs, Saint John on 07/05/09 03:02:10 PM AST
Why isn't it turned into a city bus terminal...the current one which is non existent sucks. Everything Transit related could be housed there, along with extra space for offices/businesses.
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In Ptbo, New Brunswick on 07/05/09 06:02:21 PM AST
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