Woman surprised to learn medical files in Toronto

Published Monday November 23rd, 2009

Private service | It costs $75 to get copy of your medical files

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Former patients of a retired family doctor received notice in the mail recently, saying they would have to pay up to $75 for a copy of their personal medical records.

Many of the patients from Dr. Susan Fenzl's practice received a form letter from a Toronto-based company, called DOCUdavit Solutions Inc., that informed them they could purchase a copy of their file for a maximum of $75 per person, or $150 for a family of four.

Kathy White said she was surprised when she opened the letter.

"I thought, 'My files are where? My private medical files? Who's got them? Who's looking at them? I can get them online?'" she said.

"It was so strange. At first I thought it was a joke."

White did some research online and discovered that a patient's medical records belong to their family doctor.

The majority of those retired physicians retain the original copies of their files to protect themselves against future legal proceedings or insurance claims, and most charge patients an administrative fee to cover the costs of sending a copy of those files to a patient's new family practitioner.

White said that makes sense, but it was still surprising to learn she'd have to do business with a company in Toronto to obtain copies of her medical files.

Dr. Ed Schollenberg, registrar of the College of Physicians and Surgeons of New Brunswick, said copying fees are never popular, but there are benefits to using a private company.

"What they're charging is not too far from the going rate for a lot of these processes - photocopying, copy storage, whatever," he said.

"The advantage is these records are now secure ... That has not been the case, always, when physicians have tried to look after it themselves.

"We've had all kinds of issues with records being abandoned in garages, or records were kept in somebody's basement, which flooded and were lost."

Schollenberg said it isn't always necessary for the new family physician to receive a patient's record, since he or she can take a complete history and access many medical slides from local health-care facilities.

"And they're going to be interested in what's recent history and what's really important - the past history that's significant, a major surgery and that sort of thing," he said.

Sid Soil, one of the principal owners of DOCUdavit Solutions Inc., said his company has a federal security certification and provides a valuable service for many different professionals.

"We specialize in storage for professionals - we do doctors, lawyers, accountants, and government agencies," he said.

He's received many calls from concerned patients, who want to know why they have to pay for their files and who are concerned about the safety of their personal documents.

"There's a misconception in Canada that health care is free. When you walk into a doctor's office, there are very few occasions when you have to put your hand in your pocket," he said.

"But health care is not free. When a doctor performs a service, they get paid for it. They get paid by the provincial government, rather than the patient. This is one of those services that the provincial government does not pay for."

Soil said the patient can choose to receive paper copies of their medical files, or an electronic copy on CD, or they can print the documents themselves and save them to disc by accessing the file through a secure website, which requires a user ID and password.

But he said the company isn't out to take advantage of Canadians in need.

"If somebody's on disability, we waive our fee. If there is a senior involved, they can call us," he said.

"The key thing to know is that people have to call us and talk to us. I'm a normal guy. We've never, ever not provided a patient with their records when there's been a request."

 

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This is normal when my DR here in Fredericton went to the ER room and left us they charged this as well its 100% normal sadly I was a little upset too but I didnt really have a choice
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Blue Blazer, Fredericton on 23/11/09 06:57:08 AM AST
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Omemee With Love, Shh! on 23/11/09 10:32:16 AM AST
how do they justify $75 for a piece of paper. absurd
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An Outsider's Opinion, Fredericton on 23/11/09 10:47:55 AM AST
"how do they justify $75 for a piece of paper."

Don't know about you, but my medical chart is way more than one piece of paper. And I'm healthy.
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k. san, Fredericton on 23/11/09 11:02:36 AM AST
Doctors have to retire, sometimes for reasons way beyond their control. My Family Doctor died, leaving his family responsible for thousands of patient charts. That is last thing they need to worry about. Thank goodness Docudavit is there for situations like that. Do people honestly think that a Doctor (or their family)should pay out of pocket to transfer all of their files?
After many years of very dedicated service to the community, your Doctor deserves better than the shameful way Mr. Bowie has sensationalized a standard administrative practice.
And shame on former patients who complains about having their medical files securely stored for them.
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cycler cycler, Fredericton on 23/11/09 12:17:34 PM AST
$75 to have your files transfered is certainly reasonable, considering the cost of the doctor's time, cost of copying the files and then having them securely shipped to the new doctor. I paid $75 to have forms filled out and photocopied for my insurance following a hospital stay. I'm not complaining, though, because doctors have expenses to pay too!
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A Reader, Fredericton on 23/11/09 12:30:42 PM AST
Plus the article says UP TO $75, which means that a small chart would be less than that. Some office charts I have seen can be up to 12 inches thick and take up over 3 file folders. Think of trying to photocopy that mess...the ink, the paper, the time, the courier fees....$75 would be cheap. Dr. Fenzl's patients know that she is unable to deal with these charts herself at this time. Be happy she has entrusted them to a company who will deal with them appropriately and safely. Be happy that they notified her patients of this.

Don't know why this woman felt the need to whine to the media.
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k. san, Fredericton on 23/11/09 12:40:25 PM AST
Once I found out that Docudavit was a legit company I was actually quite relieved to know that my medical files were there. From their website: "Our guarantee is to provide safe, secure facilities for our client's valuable and confidential information." Better there than in a basement or unsecure warehouse who knows where? I think it is a good service for doctors, lawyers and companies dealing with large amounts of paperwork.
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K. White, Fredericton on 23/11/09 01:16:47 PM AST
To Cycler Cycler...

Thanks for your comment. I will say that I didn't sensationalize this issue and I know why Dr. Fenzl has retired. I just thought it was interesting that a person can receive a form letter informing them that their personal medical records are now being stored in Toronto, held by a third party company.

I think this is an informational story. I also didn't imply that Mrs. White was upset about this practice - only that she was surprised to find herself in this situation.

I thought writing this story would help to inform people about this situation and allow them to understand why these services are used, and what could happen if a retired physician is forced to manage these records themselves.

That's my take on it.
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Adam Bowie, Fredericton on 23/11/09 01:33:17 PM AST
K. White. You are correct, that Docudavit is a very reasonable service. Did you find this out before or after you called the Gleaner to publicly complain, or perhaps help a friend write a "shocking" article about something that is not even newsworthy in the first place. Did you consider the effect this article would have on anyone else, like perhaps Dr. Fenzl?
This article shows the depths that some will sink to create news.
Notice how the front page in print is all the negative comments, while you have to turn the page to read that it's all actually quite reasonable and in fact the best solution for patients.
Do you know how much a Lawyer or Accountant would charge for the same amount of clerical work? They definitely would not consider anyone Else's financial situation or well being the way OUR Doctors do.
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cycler cycler, Fredericton on 23/11/09 01:37:23 PM AST
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