Don't base your reaction to NB Power issue on emotion

Published Saturday November 28th, 2009

Letters to the editor

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Re: Sale of NB Power

For years I've heard New Brunswickers complain about NB Power's mismanagement, and now that there's a viable proposal on the table, we see a huge swell of opposition, much of it based on nothing more than how people "feel."

Whether it's bitterness towards the premier, a grudge against the Liberals or a hate for Quebec, few people I've heard seem able or willing to weigh the proposal on its own merits.

They just want to oppose it, and naturally, they offer no alternative plans themselves.

For my own part, I like the idea of local management of NB Power. But that's only my feeling; I'm no expert on the management of a vital utility, nor on public policy.

My feelings don't keep the lights on. If experts who specialize in utility management, in economics and in policy say this is the best course of action, that should count for more than what we laymen think.

The pilot of a plane doesn't poll the passengers for flying instructions before take-off; their specialized knowledge counts for more than populist opinion, and rightly so.

Something a lot of people don't seem to get about democracy is that sometimes their guy wins and sometimes the other guy wins, and no matter who is in power, they're bound to make decisions that this voter or that one disagrees with.

The voters' recourse comes in the form of elections and peaceful protests.

But the Liberals won the last election, and now it's their turn to give their ideas a try.

What's more, if they did hold a public vote on every big decision they tried to make, not only would nothing ever get done, but the next day everyone would be screaming "and the polling/commission/referendum cost us how much?"

To the government, I'd offer a little bit of history's wisdom on whatever the popularity of the opposition they might face: George S. Patton said, "if everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking."

Ken Spragg

Fredericton

Triangle of a deal

Re: Sale of NB Power

The triangle of Québec, New Brunswick and Hydro-Québec is ever-present, but where is NB Power?

NB Power appears to not have been invited to the table on this deal. The president of Hydro-Quebec returned to New Brunswick recently and met with the directors of NB Power, and his opening statement was, "Make no mistake, this deal will go through."

What does that statement mean? It means, forget about public opinion, NB Power corporate opinion, NB Power board of directors' opinion and the opinion of 2,500 employees who, combined, have some 40,000 to 50,000 years of experience in the industry.

It screams "your opinion doesn't matter."

This screams that the government of New Brunswick took the only offer on the table to answer the government's question of 'what should we do with NB Power?'

The auditor general stated, "Actually, there will be no impact on the province's net debt," (referring to the sale of NB Power).

It is difficult to ignore this statement. Under the leadership of David Hay, NB Power's debt has been reduced by $1.3 billion over the past five years.

Electricity issues are complex at best, and everyone seems to think they understand the industry.

Sometimes a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. As the old saying goes, "Be careful of what you wish for;" and as government would say, Be in this place, the province of New Brunswick, where NB Power belongs.

Stephen Hayes

Lincoln, N.B.

Bottle exchange would be a good addition

Re: York Street train station

We are all looking forward to NB Liquor's restoration of the old train station.

I wonder if any thought has been given to adding a clean and attractive bottle exchange to the rear of the building.

Even if this depot was set up for just NB Liquor products, it could provide the outlet that has gone missing for so many downtown with no way to get out to the new bottle exchange location.

Any such station should be provided by the private sector and can be maintained in a manner respectful to the overall restoration and redevelopment of that area of our community.

Frank Webb

Fredericton

 

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Ken Spragg,

With a deal of this magnitude, one that will affect NB forever, and affects every person in NB, is it any wonder that people are a little emotional?

As for alternatives, what alternatives have the Liberals looked at before deciding to sell? Have they sat down with NB Power employees (the ones that actually do the work, not the baggage at the top) and said "How can we change things to be more effecient, cost effectve and run things better?" Have tey went to NL, NS and PEI and sought out agreements to sell/buy power, lease transmission lines etc? Several smaller deals may be far more lucrative than this one shot deal.

"If experts who specialize in utility management, in economics and in policy say this is the best course of action, that should count for more than what we laymen think"

Experts far more experienced than Shawn & Jack have spoken out against this deal. Their expertise doesn't count?

The deal is bad and proving to be more so each day!
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Common Man, Fredericton on 28/11/09 06:55:26 AM AST
Don't put all your faith in the "experts". Experts are bought and paid for every day and numbers can be presented in many different ways to advance one's cause.
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Little Guy, NB on 28/11/09 07:08:23 AM AST
Okay Ken Spragg, how about if we oppose it not based on emotion, but because its a fundamentally bad deal? We're giving up a lot and not getting much in return, all from a government intent on ramming it through before the public can have a say on the matter through the next election.

I'm glad you don't see anything wrong with a government actively working to subvert the will of the people by selling us out in a bad deal, but obviously quite a few people don't like it. When voter participation in the next election hits another all time low, I sure hope nobody writing to the Gleaner sits around wondering why. We know why, we're seeing it right now.

Why bother voting when the politicians will just act like dictators and ignore everything you voted them in to do? Our system is a joke.
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Chris Eaton, Fredericton on 28/11/09 07:52:16 AM AST
Mr. Spragg,
With all due respect, if you are seriously suggesting that this deal has been analyzed by experts as being the most beneficial solution for this province and was not basically an industry (re:Irving) directed decision, you are delusional. Mr. Graham is doing exactly what he has been told to do and the only expertise required was how to make Irving more profitable.
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G. Murray, Woodstock on 28/11/09 09:02:19 AM AST
I do not think that emotions play a big part in my opinion of the power deal. I understand that NB Power by itself is a very small player in the power game and as a result it's product costs more. Anyone in business today knows that if you are an independent it is really tough to compete against the Walmarts out there. On top of that, if you are mismanaging your business,over paying your staff and paying yourself huge bonuses, you are not going to be in business for long; unless you have a government that will bale you out. If the pilot is not flying the plane right, get a new pilot not a new plane.
The government propaganda is muddying the water somewhat and is useless (the people of New Brunswick see it for what it is) so why waste our dollars on this huge campaign. My concern is that I feel NB Power was bought cheap and Hydro Quebec is laughing behind our backs! Also, no matter how optimistic you are, someday we will be buying power from a hostile foreign government.
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Ben Thinkin, Fredericton on 28/11/09 09:31:55 AM AST
It's no secret that the Irvings and other industries have been lobbying for lower power rates. That's business. It's also no secret that the Irvings employ a lot of NB workers. That's good. It's also a fact that they control all the newspapers in NB. That's not so good. It's also a fact that they make up over 70% of the industrial load in NB. It's also common knowledge that they have been considering a second oil refinery and a possible gas fired power plant. So lets just look at these facts.
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Little Guy, NB on 28/11/09 10:22:36 AM AST
This deal will be giving the biggest benefit to the Irving group of companies since they make up the largest portion of the industrial load, which is getting the biggest break on rates.The closing of all NB Powers fossil plants will eliminate 6 mt of NB's 18.7 mt of GHG emissions which would make additional room for the addition of the new Irving refinery and power plant, or take pressure off their existing operations.Maybe just a coincidence,who knows. When you control the press and a large number of jobs in a province like NB you have a pretty big bargaining chip.Is it any surprise that most of benefits go to this company.Again ,maybe it's just a coincidence.You decide if they have had any influence on this deal,directly or indirectly.
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Little Guy, NB on 28/11/09 10:22:58 AM AST
Here's a quote from another famous General.
"Hurray, boys! We've got them. We'll finish them up and then go home to our station."
General George Custer, before battle with Indians at Little Big Horn
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Little Guy, NB on 28/11/09 10:41:26 AM AST
Doug,
Everything here is an opinion and I am certain that u know what that is worth - if it makes you feel better I may be as delusional as I suggested that Mr. Spragg could be. I always seem to look at the people who benefit the most and have the most influence as the likely drivers of a decision - call it the auditor in me or call it delusional, I don't much care.
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G. Murray, Woodstock on 28/11/09 10:47:44 AM AST
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Sexy Fish, Guess on 28/11/09 01:49:23 PM AST
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